APRIL PEREZ - 04/13/00 04:23:11 Comments:
We were a "good looking couple with great potential for leadership!" They became my best friends. After years of "stuggling" and "reconstuction" I was baptized in this church three times! Why? Because I wasn't committed enough, "committed to what or whom?" I alway's felt that the first time I learned about Jesus Christ in 1983 and was baptized I then committed myself to Jesus. The ICoC disagreed and after weeks of study and slapping sin in my face convinced me otherwise.
Hence many years of living with guilt that I was not committed to church enough, my husband enough, my family, and a poor servant to my disciplers. I developed severe migrains, and depression, thoughts of suicide, stomach aches, constant vomitting, severe weight loss and nightmares.
I was told by a discipler that I drank too much pepsi and should give my urge over to God by putting the money I would spend on a soda in a jar and give to the church! Come on now! When I decided to leave the church, I was harassed for weeks. I was called a snake, a weasel, and told that i was taking my children to hell and causing my husband to sin with lust for other members and so on and so on.
I thought the verbal abuse would never end. When talking and trying to make me feel guilty and feel responsible for everyone elses sin didn't bring me back my husband resulted with physical abuse. "Of course I made him do it." I have lost so much from being involved with this group. I've been spiritually raped, at one time my sanity, and most painfully my 13 year marriage and my children whom are still suffering for loving me. 10 years have past since I left, I'm haunted at times only because our children are still going through great emotional abuse that seems out of my control. But I believe that sites like this will help them someday too.
Thank you for having such a website, I believe it will help many with the same story. Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments: Comments:
My Email:
Location: wichita, ks
College Affiliation: none
Referred by: search
I was the 18th member baptized into the kc church of christ in 1986. I remained with this group for 5 1/2 years. I left in 1991 . In 1986 my husband and I were new to Kansas City and was looking for affordable marriage counceling. Just so happens I met some REALY NICE people at a "neighborhood bible talk" and was invited to a "marriage seminar" FREE of charge.
Gaurangi Dasi - 04/13/00 00:52:32
My Email:
Location: U.K.
I read some of your 'news' items. I am really saddened by the fact that you still refer to the 'Hare Krishna' movement as a cult. It is a well known fact that Vaisnavism (which is the religion now nick-named Hare Krishna in the west) is the oldest religio
known to man. In the U.K. the 'Hare Krishna' temple is used by thousands of Hindus as their most popular and reverred site of worship. What to speak of the FACT that in oxford university, known worldwide as THE seat of learning, and a 'Hare Krishna' monk
of good standing, is teaching Vaishnavism there, approved by great shcolars as a bona fide and ancient culture?
You are out dated and small minded. By all means try to protect us from cults.. but be more informed before you throw the dirt on bona fde religious groups.
Thank you
Gaurangi Dasi (life-long 'Hare Krishna' follower, not brainwashed, just happy)
SKEPTIC99 - 04/09/00 15:25:02
My Email:
and why are you guys so against the ICC? Even at my college, there were always flyers up "beware of the ICC, they are a cult!" The fact is , if they were really a dangerous cult I would be interested and excited by them. It's just a funny version of chris
ianity. No aliens in the sky, no multiple wives, no kool aid, no naked orgies in the desert. The ICC doesnt sound dangerous and destructive, it sounds BORING.
SKEPTIC99 - 04/09/00 15:21:20
My Email:
Location: NYNY
Best site on cults: http://www.mayhem.net/Crime/morgue.html
College Affiliation: nope
Referred by: nope
Hey, you all are so worried about cults..how about MAINSTREAM RELIGION targeting disenfranchised college students, or even worse- CONVINCING POOR PEOPLE to HAND OVER THEIR MONEY to the CHURCH. Christianity,Judaism, and al the rest are JUST AS F (edit) BAD
exploitative, and manipulative as any "cult". We just don't think about it because those cults have gotten so much power that they are part of our Moral Code, part of our history, woven into every aspect of our culture. Why worry about some ridiculous sec
in Northern Nebraska when Christianity is ruining people's lives right down the street? Just a thought.
Alexey M. Khlopoff - 03/31/00 08:30:36
My Email:alexeykh@aol.com
Location: Santa Rosa. CA
College Affiliation: Holy Trinity Seminary
When I was studying at San Francisco State
University, there was a Asian gentleman who often
visited the campus. He would show passers-by a
sheet with faces drawn on it. The point was to
get a respondent to point to a face that showed
their mood. My friends and I noticed that he was
approaching mostly females, and woul avoid contact
with males. He would also be seen on Haight
Street. We were convinced he was a cult
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Darlene Johnson - 03/12/00 23:50:16
My Email:brandywne2@yahoo.com
Excellent site. Good work
mandt - 02/29/00 20:39:54
My Email:bsbsuckz@excite.com
Location: california
College Affiliation: victorvalley
Referred by: excite links
a quotation by leo pfeffer "...if you believe in it, it is a religion or perhaps the religion; and if you do not care one way or anouther about it, it is a sect; but if you fear and hate it, it is a cult." meaning dont be so closed minded cults exsis t ev
rywhere probably in your own town.you may belong to a cult depending on what religion or faith you are.
Sam - 02/27/00 00:56:57
My URL:http://www4.ncsu.edu/`xvang
My Email:xvang@unity.ncsu.edu
Location: Raleigh
Best site on cults: ???
College Affiliation: NC State University
Referred by: My convictions
"Cults are not on campuses looking for psychologically unstable individuals. They are seeking intelligent people-the brightest and best-to further their particular cause."
WHAT!!! Of course, everyone on a college campus is an "intelligent people-the brightest and best"! Why do you think they got to college in the first place? I'm not so smart myself, but you get the point. And besides, not to insult you guys now, but you
minds are dimented by what others have told you(I can't even spell demented right). You guys have no relevant evidence on about why you call us a "cult"(which means "particular system of worship, or the people following it" in the New Scholastic Diction
ry of American English). What's wrong with our "particular system of worship? Why are we too devoted? Alright, enough preaching... REALITY CHECK... Look at your lives... look real hard... harder... nope, keep looking... there you go... oh, what was tha
... you got drunk the other night... oh, you sleep around... what, what now... now see, who is the real hypocrite... end of story.
alan pritchard - 02/24/00 19:28:15
- 02/16/00 23:07:04
My Email:crashn2m@aol.com
I am very glad to see this sight. I am saddened for these people who are members. I wish they were not so afraid of "spiritual pornography" and would take a long deep, look at what they are involved in. I pray that each of these people would ask God to
pen their hearts, eyes and mind to the spiritual deception happening at the ICC.
If you are a current member, please search out all the info you can, once you have studied both sides, pray and ask God to show you the truth ,then you can make a wise and Godly decision. Watch what you are told to do by your dicipler, listen to what you
as a dicipler are telling others to do or not to do. Pay attention to if you are a true friend and if your frineds are true or are they just assigned to you? Read the bible as it was meant to be read, as a whole, not taking a verse here and there out of
context. If you have doubts in your mind heed those thought and investigate.
- 02/16/00 22:54:25
My Email:crashn2m@aol.com
PHIL VINCIGUERRA - 02/16/00 04:22:02
My Email:PHILV777@JUNO.COM
Avey - 02/03/00 00:58:20
My Email:Avangeline@collegeclub.com
- 01/30/00 02:59:18
KATRINA - 01/25/00 01:39:32
My Email:KATM060382
Location: POMERADO, SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA
I'M A PART OF THE INTERNATIONAL CHURCHES OF CHRIST. BEFOR I BECAME A DISCIPLE I SMOKED CIGARETTS AND WEED. IF IT WERE NOT FOR THIS CHURCH I WOULD MOST LIKELY STILL BE DOING THAT. I AM 17 AND THIS CHURCH HAS CHANGED MY LIFE SO MUCH. I DON'T SMOKE OR DO DRU
S, I AM CLOSER TO MY MOM AND MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL I NOW HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ONE AND ONLY GOD.IF YOU WANT TO THINK IT IS A CULT GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BELIVE WHAT YOU WANT. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A GREAT LIFE ON EARTH AND A GREAT ETERNAL LI
E IN HEAVEN AND NOT HELL I THINK YOU SHOULD CHECK OUT THE CHURCH FOR YOUR SELF.
Joshua Vaught - 01/20/00 03:57:10
My Email:mahavite@aol.com
Location: Cary, NC
College Affiliation: Wake Technical Community Colleg
Your site was quite educational for me. I had a run-in with the ICC about two years ago. They call themselves Triangle Church in this area. I left because I disagreed with them doctrinally, I come from a Baptist background. However, looking back, I sa
the cult-like tactics they use.
Talia - 01/16/00 23:09:08
My Email:destinySBOCS@aol.com
Location: Boston, MA
Truly gods message is working and the disiples of jesus christ in the ICOC are doing there best to bring as many disiples to god. If we were not being persecuted by sites like this and many people then are message would not be being heard. As it says in t
e bible that you will be persercuted for what you have done just like jesus was. I am 17 years old and i choose to follow the bible and the word of god. People turn away from god because of there sin, not because of the church. Nobody is perfect, and we a
e far from being perfect but being a disiple of god helps me fight day to day to bring the glory to him. There is nothing controling about the lifestlye that the disiples are preaching to live, the only thing that is controling is the bible and the bible
tates that we are to be 100% pure hearted rightous people and to live are life doing things that please him, and if you can not handle how powerful the word of god is then it is not right to blame it on the disiples who are trying to live for god. OPen th
bible see what it says and relize that if you are living by the word of god day by day then you will no longer point the finger at a church that is fighting to do the will of god. Again, i am 17 years old and i have the choice to leave god and the church
but i choose life, i choose eternaty, i choose god as my god, and i will fight for my relationship with god till the day i die, and no one can shake my ground. Check it out and evaluate your life, i did and i relized that i am nothing without god and his
kingdom, the church.
flanders - 12/22/99 09:38:27
My URL:http://cults.ceis.org
My Email:portaroma@excite.com
Location: Hong Kong
Advantage of your sites: there is lots of information about cult.
Disadvantage of your sites: your information is not managed well. I suggest that information about one cult can be group together in one catalogy. Visitors can find information of one cult in a easy way.
John Sarigala - 12/14/99 15:04:32
My URL:http://intlcc.tripod.com
My Email:john@eomail.india.external.hp.com
Location: Bangalore, INDIA
Hey, who could've washed your brain?! You don't have any!!
John Sarigala - 12/14/99 14:58:32
My URL:http://intlcc.tripod.com
My Email:john@eomail.india.external.hp.com
Location: Bangalore, INDIA
Hey, I have a REAL CULT to add to your list! The name of that cult is REVEAL!! Evidently you're a member of that CULT!! Please remove the PLANK in your own eye, so that you may see clearly and remove the speck of sawdust in others' eyes.
John Sarigala - 12/14/99 14:42:34
My Email:john@eomail.india.external.hp.com
Location: Bangalore, INDIA
Which CULT are you a part of?
Cynthia - 11/24/99 02:22:21
My Email:ckallday@juno.com
Location: South Bay, San Diego, CA
Referred by: My Own Initiative
I just wanted to share that I was first met over five years ago in college. I was seeking God wholeheartedly. I was such an angry person, full of hate and bitterness. I had everything I could ever want on the outside, but was torn in the inside. A fri
nd of mine had left the church several years ago and was making an attempt to come back. I insisted on attending; it was a mid-week devotional. The next day I began the study series and saw radical changes in my life. I had been to so many other church
s, but this church was a family of love. They cared about my salvation. They were not a group of people whom you could just 'clock in' church with. They wanted to know you so that they could help you to make it to heaven. Since then, I have been so he
villy persecuted by my husband, my friends, and my family. And eventually because of my faithfulness to God and his church, my husband (who was not a disciple) left me. My friends in the world left me. And at first my family persecuted me hard.
I now lead a single-mother's Bible Talk, I have learned to love even those friends who left me, I gained a multitude of new friends from all around the world, and my family holds me up as an example of a God-fearing woman, brave and courageous.
It may seem that on the outside I had lost much, but I have truly gained a life through Jesus Christ. I can now date purely in the Kingdom, and lead my daughter to her own relationship with God. I am truly grateful for my salvation.
If you are a person who is confused or seeking God, please e-mail me. I would love to share with you even more about victories through Christ. God does not want us to be angry and full of vengeance and hate. His desire is to save us from all of our lon
liness.
You may ask, does it bother me that our church is labeled a cult? Jesus already told us in the gospel that the world would hate his true disciples. We see in the book of Acts that the church was heavily persecuted. If you are not being persecuted and s
ffering for the Name, you are not part of his church. The definition of a cult is 'followers of a live person.' Jesus is ALIVE. Do you believe that? To God be the Glory. AMEN!
Rohan Dredge - 11/17/99 10:42:14
My Email:rohand@shirecc.org.au
Location: Sydney Australia
I have a friend being pressured at the moment by the Atlanta Church of Christ - any additional information that can refute them would be very helpful!
randy peterson - 11/16/99 04:09:03
My Email:turtlesgramps@webtv.net
Location: denton,tx
brenda - 11/11/99 18:35:07
My Email:n9682785@cc.wwu.edu
Location: washington
College Affiliation: western washington Univ
brenda - 11/11/99 18:34:52
My Email:n9682785@cc.wwu.edu
Location: washington
College Affiliation: western washington Univ
Salah O.Matteos - 10/18/99 14:12:53
My Email:SOMatteos@aol.com
Location: Fairhaven,Ma
Referred by: Jack Carter
I was told by a member to look into the Web sight http://www.icoc.org.
I have been to several meetings,in DC and In Canton ,Ma. and several study groups. I am 66 years old and i have been around the world and lived in Europe,Africa and the USA in which I was born. I have a strong feeling that you are opposed to the Internati
nal church of Christ. My short time in visiting with them I have not found that they are brainwashing people or that they are any less the any other Christian church in the world. You use the word cult as a negative I think you are misleading;all religiou
worship is a cult and the word is a positive Jesus Christ had a cult along with his disciples.I think that your motived are based on Ibliss or satanic beliefs. Why not let God be the judge?
Are you afraid of the truth of the Bible as it is taught. I have met some wonderful people in this organization and I see great works being done in their teachings as members of the Body of Christ. No I have not been brainwashed I am not a member I am inv
stigating and making comparative studies as a scientist in Deus. I can understand why they are growing at a fast pace;they are bringing a new fresh approach to Chritianity,sound loke the ressurection of Jesus to me for the coming year 2000. I think you wi
l help them to grow faster by your condemnation. "Know the truth and the truth will set you free"
Cher'no Salahudin Omowali Barboza Rosa Mateus
Laura Stevenson - 10/12/99 20:45:30
My Email:freakylaura@hotmail.com
Location: Queen's University, Belfast, Northern Ireland
Referred by: myself
I think sites like this are great for warning unsuspecting students about the dangers of cults. The only thing is it seems to be very ICOC based and, while this is all very well, we must not forget other, potentially even more dangerous beliefs than this.
I was browsing the web for some information on my third year Psychology Thesis - which I planned to do on why people believe in myths and legends, and ended up at a site on 'The Church of Virus'. I was wondering if anyone had heard of it. If you have - pl
ase contact me. It's pretty alarming stuff.
Quidam ex Veles - 10/05/99 22:30:06
My Email:quidam76@hotmail.com
College Affiliation: School of Hard Knocks
Referred by: flyer
In my opinion, this site seems to be one lonely and bitter man's attempt to lash out at the ICOC...
Reginald Greene - 09/27/99 12:44:37
My URL:http://www.cultsoncampus.com
Location: Los Angeles, California USA
Best site on cults: http://www.CultsOnCampus.com
College Affiliation: California State University, Los Angeles
Referred by: myself
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